1 00:00:09,709 --> 00:00:04,249 hello I'm Joseph a brown cce certified 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:09,719 cost engineer retired NASA USA and Corps 3 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:12,090 of Engineers I worked on the Apollo 4 00:00:17,029 --> 00:00:15,599 program and we signed the VA be the beam 5 00:00:19,429 --> 00:00:17,039 at the top of the building for the 6 00:00:21,620 --> 00:00:19,439 Apollo program and then we came along 7 00:00:23,029 --> 00:00:21,630 with the shuttle and one of the things I 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:23,039 remember about the shuttle was launched 9 00:00:27,589 --> 00:00:25,890 my mother-in-law's birthday that was a 10 00:00:28,730 --> 00:00:27,599 strange one but she was down here and 11 00:00:30,919 --> 00:00:28,740 just happened to be here at the right 12 00:00:33,139 --> 00:00:30,929 time in the right place but the shuttle 13 00:00:35,180 --> 00:00:33,149 was something we work on so long getting 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:35,190 it ready and budgeting we had the budget 15 00:00:39,889 --> 00:00:38,250 we had 20 or 30 different configurations 16 00:00:42,860 --> 00:00:39,899 we had to budget estimate for I would 17 00:00:45,260 --> 00:00:42,870 cost engineer recently we had Buzz 18 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:45,270 Aldrin the astronaut and I had lunch 19 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:48,239 together and we talked about the moon 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:50,640 mining of helium-3 which one of the 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:53,850 goals of the space were at one time but 22 00:00:58,910 --> 00:00:57,090 all quite an exciting and interesting to 23 00:01:02,270 --> 00:00:58,920 her when I went to high school we talked 24 00:01:06,020 --> 00:01:02,280 about spudnick and here again the